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| Thiebaud 2005-03-09, 8:46 am |
| Hi,
Reading most of the posts here, I would like to be 100% sure of the
following before purchasing a Viewsonic v150p Smart Display. Thanks to clear
my understanding, here is the case:
1 have a HTPC (Home Theatre PC) running Win XP Pro SP2 with:
* a dual display graphic card wich can be controlled and monitored by
program
* the 1st video output is a standard 1024x768 connected to a LCD flat
planel display
* the 2nd video output is a 720p (1280x720) output connected by a HDMI
(alternatively a DVI) cable to a HT video projector
I understand that when using a Smart Display, the video port on the remote
PC is disabled by default.
What happens when the remote PC (in my case hte HTPC) has a dual video
output? Is it possible to have one of the 2 video outputs enabled when using
the Smart Display? My goal would be to use the Smart Display as a remote
control device for my HTPC. I'm also concerned by the difference of graphic
resolutions between the Smart Display (1024x768) and the HD video output on
my HTPC (1280x720).
TIA for your help.
Thiebaud
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| I don't think it will work (sorry)
Remote Destop Connection will not (unfortunately) support multimonitor
I doubt smart panel display services will
RDC is the more corporate product, and I would think the more likely
of the two to allow for multi monitor on the client, if either of them...
FWIW, My pc, a sony vaio, DOES maintain video out on it's special to sony
video board
for supply tv video (the host PC)
you MIGHT succeed in adding a video card for tv out on your hosting PC, and
having it
serve video-
further, do you realize the bandwidth requirement to send two screens of
video & even 1 audio
stream will seriously swamp any wireless connection?
"Thiebaud" <Thiebaud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:695EBE27-B577-473A-A0CB-458D26E43AED@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> Reading most of the posts here, I would like to be 100% sure of the
> following before purchasing a Viewsonic v150p Smart Display. Thanks to
> clear
> my understanding, here is the case:
>
> 1 have a HTPC (Home Theatre PC) running Win XP Pro SP2 with:
> * a dual display graphic card wich can be controlled and monitored by
> program
> * the 1st video output is a standard 1024x768 connected to a LCD flat
> planel display
> * the 2nd video output is a 720p (1280x720) output connected by a HDMI
> (alternatively a DVI) cable to a HT video projector
>
> I understand that when using a Smart Display, the video port on the remote
> PC is disabled by default.
> What happens when the remote PC (in my case hte HTPC) has a dual video
> output? Is it possible to have one of the 2 video outputs enabled when
> using
> the Smart Display? My goal would be to use the Smart Display as a remote
> control device for my HTPC. I'm also concerned by the difference of
> graphic
> resolutions between the Smart Display (1024x768) and the HD video output
> on
> my HTPC (1280x720).
>
> TIA for your help.
>
> Thiebaud
| |
| Thiebaud 2005-03-09, 8:46 am |
| Thanks for your quick answer.
However, this isn't exactly what I had in mind. The hosting PC (the HTPC)
will not send video back to the Smart Display, but to the video projector by
a HDMI/DVI cable, using its second video port.
The first video port should be the only one displayed remotely on the Smart
Display device. I think this configuration is close to yours (with a
dedicated video card) except that in my case there aren't 2 separate video
cards but a single one with a dual display capability. This configuration is
explained here:
http://www.intel.com/products/chips...ma900/index.htm
As you can read, this configuration (is) "allowing you to work on one
display while monitoring mail or even watching a DVD movie on the other."
So I was wondering: if the first display output is disabled by the use of a
Smart Display, will the second one remain active to send video out to my
video projector?
Does it make sense to you? Tell me if it's unclear.
Cheers,
Thiebaud
"MDBJ" wrote:
> I don't think it will work (sorry)
> Remote Destop Connection will not (unfortunately) support multimonitor
>
> I doubt smart panel display services will
> RDC is the more corporate product, and I would think the more likely
> of the two to allow for multi monitor on the client, if either of them...
>
> FWIW, My pc, a sony vaio, DOES maintain video out on it's special to sony
> video board for supply tv video (the host PC)
>
> you MIGHT succeed in adding a video card for tv out on your hosting PC, and
> having it serve video-
> further, do you realize the bandwidth requirement to send two screens of
> video & even 1 audio stream will seriously swamp any wireless connection?
>
> "Thiebaud" <Thiebaud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:695EBE27-B577-473A-A0CB-458D26E43AED@microsoft.com...
>
>
>
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| Tom Porterfield 2005-03-09, 4:49 pm |
| On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 06:35:10 -0800, Thiebaud wrote:
> So I was wondering: if the first display output is disabled by the use of a
> Smart Display, will the second one remain active to send video out to my
> video projector?
>
> Does it make sense to you? Tell me if it's unclear.
I'm not sure, but you can test before you purchase a smart display. As the
smart display just uses RDC to connect back to the host, you can use any
desktop or laptop that has the remote desktop client to try and connect to
your HTPC.
--
Tom Porterfield
MS-MVP Windows
http://support.telop.org
Please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup only.
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| go ahead and try.
as soon as you log in under remote desktop, it will log off the local PC &
user.
if there isn't an active local user to run the 2nd video driver...
RDC won't run dual displays.
every dual monitor on one videocard setup I've ever seen (except cloned vga
output)
goes blank when no local user is logged in.
"Tom Porterfield" <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:m1q1ok0iqm5f.dlg@tpportermvps.org...
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 06:35:10 -0800, Thiebaud wrote:
>
>
> I'm not sure, but you can test before you purchase a smart display. As
> the
> smart display just uses RDC to connect back to the host, you can use any
> desktop or laptop that has the remote desktop client to try and connect to
> your HTPC.
> --
> Tom Porterfield
> MS-MVP Windows
> http://support.telop.org
>
> Please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup only.
| |
| Thiebaud 2005-03-09, 4:49 pm |
| Thanks MDJB.
Do you mean my config wil work with a cloned video output on 2 separate
display devices? The second display will not go blank then?
T.
"MDBJ" wrote:
> every dual monitor on one videocard setup I've ever seen (except cloned vga
> output) goes blank when no local user is logged in.
| |
|
| Thiebaud, I have the exact setup you mention, a HTPC with an ATI dual monitor
setup, the DVI goes to the PJ and the VGA runs the V150P.
As soon as I login with the V150P the PJ screen goes blank, I haven't found
a good way to change this situation, it has been suggested that you replace
the termsrv.ddl with an older version to allow 2 logins to the same PC at the
same time, but this is for 2 'separate' sessions.
Unless I'm not understanding what you want to do, i.e. control the second
image (PJ) from the airpanel while it is undocked and logged in via RDC, then
from what I have found it can't be done this way.
If you don't mind leaving the airpanel docked, or conversly use the airpanel
as a remote control with the NEVO software kit, but still not logging into
the current session, your hooped (not you personally) but suffice to say it
won't work.
I haven't found a way around the caveats as spelled out above. But, I
haven't given up yet...
"Thiebaud" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Reading most of the posts here, I would like to be 100% sure of the
> following before purchasing a Viewsonic v150p Smart Display. Thanks to clear
> my understanding, here is the case:
>
> 1 have a HTPC (Home Theatre PC) running Win XP Pro SP2 with:
> * a dual display graphic card wich can be controlled and monitored by
> program
> * the 1st video output is a standard 1024x768 connected to a LCD flat
> planel display
> * the 2nd video output is a 720p (1280x720) output connected by a HDMI
> (alternatively a DVI) cable to a HT video projector
>
> I understand that when using a Smart Display, the video port on the remote
> PC is disabled by default.
> What happens when the remote PC (in my case hte HTPC) has a dual video
> output? Is it possible to have one of the 2 video outputs enabled when using
> the Smart Display? My goal would be to use the Smart Display as a remote
> control device for my HTPC. I'm also concerned by the difference of graphic
> resolutions between the Smart Display (1024x768) and the HD video output on
> my HTPC (1280x720).
>
> TIA for your help.
>
> Thiebaud
| |
| Thiebaud 2005-03-09, 4:49 pm |
| Thanks Al,
I've had posted a similar question for you personally in a separate thread
("Use airpanel to control MCE", you may want to review it) to try clear my
worries but your answer is crystal clear, as well as those from MDBJ and Tom
Porterfield.
Thanks for your help gentlemen, it seems we're definitely stuck !!!
You have rightly understood my needs, and I guess I'm not the only one to
have them. Software editors and hardware manufacturers spend billions of
dollars each year in advanced research & development, but they fail to do
very simple things at the end of the day. What a disappointment!
Last thing: when you said "If you don't mind leaving the airpanel docked",
does it mean there is a chance to have the dual display work in a single
session when the airpanel is docked? I guess it won't given the above remarks
but thanks to confirm anyway if you read this post.
You said you will not give up, please be sure I will support you (remotely..
:=)) during your quest of the holy Graal. Unfortunatley for me, I'm not a
software developer, so I can't figure out an alternative solution. However,
if I try to keep it logic and simple:
1/ the airpanel logs onto the HTPC through a single and separate session
2/ you can see the HTPC GUI through that Remote Desktop Connection (or
through the embedded Smart Display services), and the HTPC video displays are
disabled (or blank)
3/ through that session, you launch your favorite DVD player software, let's
say Intervideo WinDVD - at this point, nothing's bad
4/ if you don't mind to explain it, why is it so difficult to find a way to
force WinDVD to route its video stream to another address matching the second
video output (the DVI one connected to the video projector) ?
It's maybe a stupid question after all.
Cheers,
Thiebaud
"Al" wrote:
> Thiebaud, I have the exact setup you mention, a HTPC with an ATI dual monitor
> setup, the DVI goes to the PJ and the VGA runs the V150P.
>
> As soon as I login with the V150P the PJ screen goes blank, I haven't found
> a good way to change this situation, it has been suggested that you replace
> the termsrv.ddl with an older version to allow 2 logins to the same PC at the
> same time, but this is for 2 'separate' sessions.
>
> Unless I'm not understanding what you want to do, i.e. control the second
> image (PJ) from the airpanel while it is undocked and logged in via RDC, then
> from what I have found it can't be done this way.
>
> If you don't mind leaving the airpanel docked, or conversly use the airpanel
> as a remote control with the NEVO software kit, but still not logging into
> the current session, your hooped (not you personally) but suffice to say it
> won't work.
>
> I haven't found a way around the caveats as spelled out above. But, I
> haven't given up yet...
| |
| Thiebaud 2005-03-09, 11:48 pm |
| Al,
I've found this:
[With Windows XP Remote Desktop you can connect to a machine with dual
monitors and be able to see both. Also you can do this even if your machine
you're using does not have 2 monitors.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...s_cmd_mstsc.asp
Example:(Connects to pc called MYMACHINE which has dual monitors at 1024x768)
mstsc.exe /v:MYMACHINE /w:2048 /h:768
)
Does it help by any mean ?
T.
| |
|
| Thiebaud, I'll take a look at the other thread, but for the questions here:
"Last thing: when you said "If you don't mind leaving the airpanel docked",
does it mean there is a chance to have the dual display work in a single
session when the airpanel is docked? I guess it won't given the above remarks
but thanks to confirm anyway if you read this post."
When the airpanel is docked it is essentially a monitor, no different then
any other CRT or LCD display. Unfortunately not a touch screen either! So it
will work in a dual display setup... just don't indock and connect in via
RDC, that's when it all changes.
" if you don't mind to explain it, why is it so difficult to find a way to
force WinDVD to route its video stream to another address matching the second
video output (the DVI one connected to the video projector) ?"
As for forcing a software program to send it's output to a different
display, that's not really the problem, it's the fact that you are within the
same session with a single dual headed video card. When you connect via RDC
all of the displays attached to that video card either go blank (PJ on
secondary) or go to the login screen (monitor on primary). The airpanel can
display a desktop etc because it is not being driven by the video card but
rather through the Remote Desktop Connection.
I have to aggree with your statement about the amnufacturer not spending
enough time to think these things through, I wish they would have solicited
some real world questions and applications before teasing us with a promising
your somewhat short sited offering. I think that there may be some ways to
make this configuration work without resorting to third party software, and
as I say I plan to keep plugging away. I don't know if anyone has tried a
second separate video card in the same PC, and the effect that RDC has on
that display?
You see, rather then ask a whole lot of questions first like you wisely did,
I blindly forged ahead and now own 2 V150's and a V110! I have other plans
that still include the HTPC control, not the least of which is home theatre
control and internet access in other locations in the house.
I've got run to pick up the wife from work, but I will take a look at that
other thread real soon.
Don't give up yet!
Al
"Thiebaud" wrote:
> Thanks Al,
>
> I've had posted a similar question for you personally in a separate thread
> ("Use airpanel to control MCE", you may want to review it) to try clear my
> worries but your answer is crystal clear, as well as those from MDBJ and Tom
> Porterfield.
> Thanks for your help gentlemen, it seems we're definitely stuck !!!
> You have rightly understood my needs, and I guess I'm not the only one to
> have them. Software editors and hardware manufacturers spend billions of
> dollars each year in advanced research & development, but they fail to do
> very simple things at the end of the day. What a disappointment!
>
> Last thing: when you said "If you don't mind leaving the airpanel docked",
> does it mean there is a chance to have the dual display work in a single
> session when the airpanel is docked? I guess it won't given the above remarks
> but thanks to confirm anyway if you read this post.
>
> You said you will not give up, please be sure I will support you (remotely..
> :=)) during your quest of the holy Graal. Unfortunatley for me, I'm not a
> software developer, so I can't figure out an alternative solution. However,
> if I try to keep it logic and simple:
>
> 1/ the airpanel logs onto the HTPC through a single and separate session
> 2/ you can see the HTPC GUI through that Remote Desktop Connection (or
> through the embedded Smart Display services), and the HTPC video displays are
> disabled (or blank)
> 3/ through that session, you launch your favorite DVD player software, let's
> say Intervideo WinDVD - at this point, nothing's bad
> 4/ if you don't mind to explain it, why is it so difficult to find a way to
> force WinDVD to route its video stream to another address matching the second
> video output (the DVI one connected to the video projector) ?
>
> It's maybe a stupid question after all.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thiebaud
>
>
>
> "Al" wrote:
>
>
| |
| Thiebaud 2005-03-09, 11:48 pm |
| Thanks Al.
What do you think about this, I've found it here:
http://forums.designtechnica.com/sh...83&page=4&pp=10
[
Originally posted by Cloud
Try taking your airpanel out of the cradle and leave it on. Then try to use
the desktop computer on its own, does it work independantly? I am curious.
Yes I have tested this. DVD playback on Plasma whilst the Air Panel accesses
the internet and email. It works! Condition: must have the lastest radeon
drivers and a very fast rpocessor in the PC.
Other access - well your primary display is the air panel so no others
cannot access the PC desktop. But if the HTPC was networked, this could be
accessed by others for media files etc.
On the heels of this - I believe (i think it is Hitachi) are working on
broadband protocol to stream HDTV from a single STB box to other suitable
displays all throughout the home (including the DD sound!).
]
It's a very old post, do you think the ATI Hydravision program was involved
here ?
Thiebaud
"Al" wrote:
> As for forcing a software program to send it's output to a different
> display, that's not really the problem, it's the fact that you are within the
> same session with a single dual headed video card. When you connect via RDC
> all of the displays attached to that video card either go blank (PJ on
> secondary) or go to the login screen (monitor on primary). The airpanel can
> display a desktop etc because it is not being driven by the video card but
> rather through the Remote Desktop Connection.
>
> Don't give up yet!
>
> Al
| |
| Todd Bowra [MSFT] 2005-03-09, 11:48 pm |
| The command line switch mentioned below would allow one PC (PC A) logging
into a second PC (PC B) to display two screens worth of information on PC A,
but this is not applicable to the Smart Display case. Smart Displays
support displaying their native LCD resolution only (e.g. 1024x768 for the
15" airpanel because that's the number of physical pixels its screen has).
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"Thiebaud" <Thiebaud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9E6644A2-5465-4627-B96C-BBA5C68C700A@microsoft.com...
> Al,
>
> I've found this:
>
> [With Windows XP Remote Desktop you can connect to a machine with dual
> monitors and be able to see both. Also you can do this even if your
machine
> you're using does not have 2 monitors.
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...s_cmd_mstsc.asp
>
> Example:(Connects to pc called MYMACHINE which has dual monitors at
1024x768)
> mstsc.exe /v:MYMACHINE /w:2048 /h:768
> )
>
> Does it help by any mean ?
>
> T.
| |
|
| No, I mean I've seen dual monitors with cloned video
showing a login on both screens.
(this I get for being precise)
Most dual monitors, when you log off- primary shows windows logon,
2nd goes blank.. with cloned, and you log off- both show windows logon,
thats all.
"Thiebaud" <Thiebaud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F8428BC9-EB0D-4373-AA0E-8596B6EF547E@microsoft.com...
> Thanks MDJB.
>
> Do you mean my config wil work with a cloned video output on 2 separate
> display devices? The second display will not go blank then?
>
> T.
>
> "MDBJ" wrote:
>
>
| |
| Jeroen Müller 2005-03-10, 8:47 am |
| Suppose you would use a 2nd PC running XP and a VNC viewer to connect to
your HTPC?
VNC allows you to take over the local desktop and should not change your
display devices, so it shouldn't interfere with your video output.
-Jeroen
"MDBJ" <me@no.com> wrote in message
news:O9NmkNTJFHA.576@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> No, I mean I've seen dual monitors with cloned video
> showing a login on both screens.
> (this I get for being precise)
> Most dual monitors, when you log off- primary shows windows logon,
> 2nd goes blank.. with cloned, and you log off- both show windows logon,
> thats all.
>
> "Thiebaud" <Thiebaud@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F8428BC9-EB0D-4373-AA0E-8596B6EF547E@microsoft.com...
>
>
| |
| Thiebaud 2005-03-10, 8:47 am |
| No Jeroen, I want to avoid the use of a second PC. The configuration would be
1 Smart Display and 1 HTPC, otherwise I can't see the value of purchasing a
Smart Display.
A number of people here are investigating a simple solution. No clue yet. I
you have brilliant ideas to do so, you're very welcome.
Thanks,
Thiebaud
"Jeroen Müller" wrote:
> Suppose you would use a 2nd PC running XP and a VNC viewer to connect to
> your HTPC?
> -Jeroen
| |
| robwhitexp 2005-03-10, 1:01 pm |
| Actully, as frustrating as having a second computer is, that isn't a horrible idea for those who have old clunkers hanging around.
That would also free you up to have Linux on the HTPC and a little 'buffer' computer to act as the Smart Display 'remote control'. Hmm. Its almost too bad that you couldn't have one Case that holds 2 seperate computers. But then the costs would rise quickly.
I wonder how much processing power you need to run XP with absolutely nothing on it other than remote desktop and VNC?
I'm talking ancient. I have a PII 300 Mhz with 256 MB of RAM practically just sitting there collecting dust.
And I presume with MS's ways, that Remote Desktop is only available for WinXp. You couldn't get it for Windows 98 or antyhing like that?
I've used my Airpanel to have an embedded Remote Desktop connection to my girlfriend's computer on the same network and the connection has been great. | |
| robwhitexp 2005-03-10, 1:06 pm |
| I love the spin Microsoft adds to the links everytime you mention Linux. Everytime you mention Linux, the a pop up appears with MS propaganda saying how bad and how costly linux is.
Linux
ok, don't over-do this...
Linux
Linux
Linux
hee hee | |
|
| hi T, interesting read, doesn't have enough details though. I have sent a
message to that person asking for details on how the ATI card can be used to
achieve whathe states was done. The good news is that I too have a ATI video
card, I'm familiar with Hydrovision but not enought to know exactly what he
did. Hopefully he responds.
I am also going to either call or send a message to ATI about out desired
situation, maybe that have already crossed this path and can help sort out
setting within the ATI control program that can make this happen.
Al
"Thiebaud" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thanks Al.
>
> What do you think about this, I've found it here:
> http://forums.designtechnica.com/sh...83&page=4&pp=10
>
> [
> Originally posted by Cloud
> Try taking your airpanel out of the cradle and leave it on. Then try to use
> the desktop computer on its own, does it work independantly? I am curious.
>
> Yes I have tested this. DVD playback on Plasma whilst the Air Panel accesses
> the internet and email. It works! Condition: must have the lastest radeon
> drivers and a very fast rpocessor in the PC.
>
> Other access - well your primary display is the air panel so no others
> cannot access the PC desktop. But if the HTPC was networked, this could be
> accessed by others for media files etc.
>
> On the heels of this - I believe (i think it is Hitachi) are working on
> broadband protocol to stream HDTV from a single STB box to other suitable
> displays all throughout the home (including the DD sound!).
> ]
>
> It's a very old post, do you think the ATI Hydravision program was involved
> here ?
>
> Thiebaud
>
> "Al" wrote:
>
| |
| Thiebaud 2005-03-11, 4:48 pm |
| Hi Al,
I did the same and sent a message to this gentlemen but that thread of posts
is very old now (2 years). I tried to contact the admin of this newsgroup
site to get the guy's personal email address but the admin's mail server has
rejected my email for some reason.
Anyway, if you have ATI Hydravision installed on your HTPC, you may perform
the same test if you have some time to do it. I guess our guy have instructed
Hydravision to use the secondary graphic display for the DVD player software.
Thanks to let me know the outcome of your investigations, we are maybe very
close to a sensible solution. Hope so.
Cheers,
Thiebaud
"Al" wrote:
> hi T, interesting read, doesn't have enough details though. I have sent a
> message to that person asking for details on how the ATI card can be used to
> achieve whathe states was done. The good news is that I too have a ATI video
> card, I'm familiar with Hydrovision but not enought to know exactly what he
> did. Hopefully he responds.
>
> I am also going to either call or send a message to ATI about out desired
> situation, maybe that have already crossed this path and can help sort out
> setting within the ATI control program that can make this happen.
>
> Al
| |
| lowpass333 2005-03-22, 8:47 am |
| Hi,
I'm thinking of using the airpanel as a remote myself, and have the same
problems as you. But I have managed to get two concurrent sessions on XP, one
on the Airpanel, and one on the original PC. IOW I can use the airpanel doing
something, while doing something else on the host pc. It's a long time since
I did this, and can't really remember the exact way right now. But I have the
file with instructions on my home pc (I'm at work...) and if you pm me, I
will send you the file. But you can try the method on this site:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article...41546.html?Ad=1
As it says you will need the specail 2055-file, and that's what I got back
home I believe...
Still though, there is a problem. When having two different sessions from
the same computer, have can you make in inout from airpanel make an action on
the other session? I'm planning to use Meedio on the airpanel, and how can I
get for example a movie to be played from another session?
Anyway, I hope this will be useful for you, and hopefully you have the
answer for my problem! :-)
Paul
"Thiebaud" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hi Al,
>
> I did the same and sent a message to this gentlemen but that thread of posts
> is very old now (2 years). I tried to contact the admin of this newsgroup
> site to get the guy's personal email address but the admin's mail server has
> rejected my email for some reason.
>
> Anyway, if you have ATI Hydravision installed on your HTPC, you may perform
> the same test if you have some time to do it. I guess our guy have instructed
> Hydravision to use the secondary graphic display for the DVD player software.
>
> Thanks to let me know the outcome of your investigations, we are maybe very
> close to a sensible solution. Hope so.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thiebaud
>
> "Al" wrote:
>
| |
| Thiebaud 2005-03-22, 4:47 pm |
| Dear Paul,
I may be wrong but I don't think a workaround exists for controlling one
session from another one, i.e. you won't be able to use Meedio on the
airpanel session to force the second session to play a DVD.
Having said that, I'm interested to get your file (your pm doesn't display
for some reason). Could you pm me in return?
Thanks,
Thiebaud
"lowpass333" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm thinking of using the airpanel as a remote myself, and have the same
> problems as you. But I have managed to get two concurrent sessions on XP, one
> on the Airpanel, and one on the original PC. IOW I can use the airpanel doing
> something, while doing something else on the host pc. It's a long time since
> I did this, and can't really remember the exact way right now. But I have the
> file with instructions on my home pc (I'm at work...) and if you pm me, I
> will send you the file. But you can try the method on this site:
>
> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article...41546.html?Ad=1
>
> As it says you will need the specail 2055-file, and that's what I got back
> home I believe...
>
> Still though, there is a problem. When having two different sessions from
> the same computer, have can you make in inout from airpanel make an action on
> the other session? I'm planning to use Meedio on the airpanel, and how can I
> get for example a movie to be played from another session?
>
> Anyway, I hope this will be useful for you, and hopefully you have the
> answer for my problem! :-)
>
> Paul
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| Thiebaud, no matter which way I asked the question the answer remained the
same, ATI doesn't have any application software that will keep the monitor
sessions separate from the RDC standpoint. Hydravision can play the movie on
the second monitor separate from the primary monitor but cannot preserve the
image if RDC is used.
I think that the easiest way for me to run a HTPC movie session will be to
set everything up while the panel is docked, with the movie ready to run on
the PJ connection. If I need to makes changes and adjustments to the PowerDVD
settings I can do this on the PJ (air mouse) via the on screen remote options
(they are complete and work well). Then I can un-dock my panel and use Nevo
to control the amplifier etc, without connecting in with RDC thereby
preserving the HTPC's current session.
Paul's reply regarding concurrent sessions still has the issue of them
operating separately, that is they do not communicate with each other. The
2055 file he is referring to is the termsrv.dll file that will allow 2
concurrent sessions, although not supported by Microsoft it does work. Still
doesn't do what we want though, or what he wants either.
When running Meedio or even MCE on an undocked airpanel connected in via
RDC, the second display will be blanked.
Al
"Thiebaud" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hi Al,
>
> I did the same and sent a message to this gentlemen but that thread of posts
> is very old now (2 years). I tried to contact the admin of this newsgroup
> site to get the guy's personal email address but the admin's mail server has
> rejected my email for some reason.
>
> Anyway, if you have ATI Hydravision installed on your HTPC, you may perform
> the same test if you have some time to do it. I guess our guy have instructed
> Hydravision to use the secondary graphic display for the DVD player software.
>
> Thanks to let me know the outcome of your investigations, we are maybe very
> close to a sensible solution. Hope so.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thiebaud
>
> "Al" wrote:
>
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| Thiebaud 2005-03-24, 8:47 am |
| Thanks for the insight Al. The outcome of your investigation is quite
terrible, meaning that I cannot set up the config I wanted which is, by any
mean, very straightforward on the paper. You said Home Theater? Hum... we're
far away from it. I undertsand now why the Smart Display concept has been
abandonned by Microsoft.
Many thanks again for the info. If one day you find a workaround, please
keep me posted.
Cheers,
Thiebaud
"Al" wrote:
> When running Meedio or even MCE on an undocked airpanel connected in via
> RDC, the second display will be blanked.
>
> Al
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| lowpass333 2005-03-24, 8:47 am |
| Hmm, it looks like i can't send you a pm either... Actually, I'm not sure
that's possible here... Anyway, I have the file, so if you just create a
temporary mail adress an post it here, I can send it to you.
And thank you for your reply on my problem, even though it wasn't the answer
I hoped for... :-)
Paul
"Thiebaud" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Dear Paul,
>
> I may be wrong but I don't think a workaround exists for controlling one
> session from another one, i.e. you won't be able to use Meedio on the
> airpanel session to force the second session to play a DVD.
>
> Having said that, I'm interested to get your file (your pm doesn't display
> for some reason). Could you pm me in return?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Thiebaud
>
> "lowpass333" wrote:
>
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| whodwho 2005-05-24, 4:53 pm |
| If I followed this correctly, you are connecting with a second RDP session
and want to control the console on a dual display PC? If so then try this:
Connect to the host with different user account then the console with:
%windir%\system32\mstsc.exe /v:mypc /w:2048 /h:768
From that session connect to the console:
%windir%\system32\shadow.exe 0
"Thiebaud" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thanks for the insight Al. The outcome of your investigation is quite
> terrible, meaning that I cannot set up the config I wanted which is, by any
> mean, very straightforward on the paper. You said Home Theater? Hum... we're
> far away from it. I undertsand now why the Smart Display concept has been
> abandonned by Microsoft.
>
> Many thanks again for the info. If one day you find a workaround, please
> keep me posted.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thiebaud
>
> "Al" wrote:
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