Dell Computers - Kinda OT: How much is it worth now?

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Kinda OT: How much is it worth now?

Neil Barras

2005-02-13, 4:45 pm

Hi,

I own a Dell Dimension 2350 which I bought new in 2003 for £741. Spec:

2.6GHz P4 Northwood
512MB PC2100 RAM (Upgraded from 256MB)
120GB Hard Drive
64MB Intel Extreme (Extreme, my arse!) Integrated Graphics
15" TFT Flat Panel
Dell Keyboard and Mouse
Windows XP Home SP2

Could you guys give me some indication of what I could get for it now?

Thanks,

Neil

Dogface

2005-02-13, 4:45 pm

"Neil Barras" <dontspamme@spammenot.com> wrote in message
news:YgPPd.700$Ru4.85@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
> Hi,
>
> I own a Dell Dimension 2350 which I bought new in 2003 for £741. Spec:
>
> 2.6GHz P4 Northwood
> 512MB PC2100 RAM (Upgraded from 256MB)
> 120GB Hard Drive
> 64MB Intel Extreme (Extreme, my arse!) Integrated Graphics
> 15" TFT Flat Panel
> Dell Keyboard and Mouse
> Windows XP Home SP2
>
> Could you guys give me some indication of what I could get for it now?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil

New one with faster processor, larger HHD is $682.
So with no warranty and wear and tear maybe less than half? $300?

Processor Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (2.80GHz, 533 FSB) WL285B [221-6495] 1
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition WHXP
[412-0721][412-0688][463-2282][420-4834][420-4927][420-5099] 11
Memory FREE UPGRADE 512MB Dual Channel 400MHz DDR SDRAM 512M4P [463-2952] 3
Keyboard Dell Quietkey® Keyboard QK [310-1582] 4
Monitors SAVE $100! 15 inch E153FP Analog Flat Panel E153F1P [463-5949] 5
Video Card Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 IV [320-2870] 6
Hard Drive 160GB Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive 160 [341-0548] 8
Floppy Drive and Memory Keys No Floppy Drive Included NFD [340-8688] 10
Mouse Dell 2-button scroll mouse SM [310-1871] 12
Network Interface Integrated 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412] 13
Modem No Modem Requested N [313-3607] 14
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705] 15
CD or DVD Drives -- Read, Write and Store Data Single Drive: 48x CD-RW Drive
48CDRW [313-2237] 16
Sound Card Integrated Audio IS [313-2758] 17
Speakers No Speaker Option N [313-4514] 18
Productivity Software Pre-Installed WordPerfect®, Powerful Word Processing
COREL [412-0701] 22
Security Software Pre-Installed No Security Subscription NS2 [412-0754] 25
Digital Music Dell Jukebox - easy-to-use music player and CD burning
software MMBASE [412-0741] 27
Digital Photography Paint ShopT Pro® Studio trial, Photo AlbumT Starter
Edition DPS [412-0744] 28
Limited Warranty, Services and Support Options 1 Year On-site Basic Plan
B111YOS [950-9797][412-0360][902-9550][960-2800] 29
Onsite System Setup No Onsite System Setup NOINSTL [900-9987] 32
Internet Access Services No ISP requested NISP [412-0148][412-0670] 37
Mail-In Rebate None NONE [463-1832] 81
Miscellaneous Dimension 3000 DIM30P4 [463-7397] 82
Purchase Intent Purchase is not intended for resale. NOT4SEL [462-4506] 138
TOTAL: $682.00

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Ben Myers

2005-02-13, 4:45 pm

$300 is in the ballpark of eBay selling prices for comparable equipment.

... Ben Myers

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:37:03 -0500, "Dogface" <DogFace@doghouse.com> wrote:

>
>"Neil Barras" <dontspamme@spammenot.com> wrote in message
>news:YgPPd.700$Ru4.85@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>
>New one with faster processor, larger HHD is $682.
>So with no warranty and wear and tear maybe less than half? $300?
>
>
>Processor Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (2.80GHz, 533 FSB) WL285B [221-6495] 1
>Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition WHXP
>[412-0721][412-0688][463-2282][420-4834][420-4927][420-5099] 11
>Memory FREE UPGRADE 512MB Dual Channel 400MHz DDR SDRAM 512M4P [463-2952] 3
>Keyboard Dell Quietkey® Keyboard QK [310-1582] 4
>Monitors SAVE $100! 15 inch E153FP Analog Flat Panel E153F1P [463-5949] 5
>Video Card Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 IV [320-2870] 6
>Hard Drive 160GB Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive 160 [341-0548] 8
>Floppy Drive and Memory Keys No Floppy Drive Included NFD [340-8688] 10
>Mouse Dell 2-button scroll mouse SM [310-1871] 12
>Network Interface Integrated 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412] 13
>Modem No Modem Requested N [313-3607] 14
>Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705] 15
>CD or DVD Drives -- Read, Write and Store Data Single Drive: 48x CD-RW Drive
>48CDRW [313-2237] 16
>Sound Card Integrated Audio IS [313-2758] 17
>Speakers No Speaker Option N [313-4514] 18
>Productivity Software Pre-Installed WordPerfect®, Powerful Word Processing
>COREL [412-0701] 22
>Security Software Pre-Installed No Security Subscription NS2 [412-0754] 25
>Digital Music Dell Jukebox - easy-to-use music player and CD burning
>software MMBASE [412-0741] 27
>Digital Photography Paint ShopT Pro® Studio trial, Photo AlbumT Starter
>Edition DPS [412-0744] 28
>Limited Warranty, Services and Support Options 1 Year On-site Basic Plan
>B111YOS [950-9797][412-0360][902-9550][960-2800] 29
>Onsite System Setup No Onsite System Setup NOINSTL [900-9987] 32
>Internet Access Services No ISP requested NISP [412-0148][412-0670] 37
>Mail-In Rebate None NONE [463-1832] 81
>Miscellaneous Dimension 3000 DIM30P4 [463-7397] 82
>Purchase Intent Purchase is not intended for resale. NOT4SEL [462-4506] 138
>TOTAL: $682.00
>
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>
>

Fred Mau

2005-02-14, 1:45 am

ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote in
news:420fd189.20367942@nntp.charter.net:

> $300 is in the ballpark of eBay selling prices for comparable
> equipment.
>
> .. Ben Myers
>

Yes, that's reasonable for here in the states.

But I noticed the original poster appeared to be from the UK, Friends I
have in the UK say that computer prices, even for used stuff, is half
again what it is here. So maybe $450 or whatever that is in pounds these
days, as an upper limit ?

- FM -

Neil Barras

2005-02-14, 5:45 am

"Fred Mau" <fred-dot-mau@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns95FCE7EF39B2Afreddotmaucomcastnet@216.196.97.131...
> ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote in
> news:420fd189.20367942@nntp.charter.net:
>
>
> Yes, that's reasonable for here in the states.
>
> But I noticed the original poster appeared to be from the UK, Friends I
> have in the UK say that computer prices, even for used stuff, is half
> again what it is here. So maybe $450 or whatever that is in pounds these
> days, as an upper limit ?
>
> - FM -
>

Thanks guys.

I was just wondering as I debating on selling it due to its lack of an AGP
slot...I didn't realise that it didn't have one because I wasn't as much in
the know as I am now. Am I jumping too far ahead here? Or should I just
stay put and buy an XFX GeForce FX 5200 128MB PCI Card for £50? I want to
do some light gaming like Sim City 4, Delta Force Black Hawk Down and want
to be able to put some of the settings if possible above Low or Off. Would
the above card allow this? Or should I sell and buy new? If yes, what would
you recommend for a similar system to my old dell, but with an AGP slot?
I'm not fussed about the manufacturer.

Thanks,

Neil

Ben Myers

2005-02-14, 8:45 am

A Dell Dimension 4000-series or 8000-series. IBM NetVista or ThinkCentre, the
latter being newer. NOT an HP Pavilion. Certain models of Compaq Evo, also
made by struggling HP preserving the HP brand name. NOT eMachines or Gateway.
NOT Sony, due to poor customer service and support. A custom built-white box
computer with high quality generic motherboard, Intel- or Asus-branded.

.... Ben Myers

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:38:15 GMT, "Neil Barras" <dontspamme@spammenot.com>
wrote:

>
>"Fred Mau" <fred-dot-mau@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:Xns95FCE7EF39B2Afreddotmaucomcastnet@216.196.97.131...
>
>Thanks guys.
>
>I was just wondering as I debating on selling it due to its lack of an AGP
>slot...I didn't realise that it didn't have one because I wasn't as much in
>the know as I am now. Am I jumping too far ahead here? Or should I just
>stay put and buy an XFX GeForce FX 5200 128MB PCI Card for £50? I want to
>do some light gaming like Sim City 4, Delta Force Black Hawk Down and want
>to be able to put some of the settings if possible above Low or Off. Would
>the above card allow this? Or should I sell and buy new? If yes, what would
>you recommend for a similar system to my old dell, but with an AGP slot?
>I'm not fussed about the manufacturer.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Neil
>
>
>

Neil Barras

2005-02-14, 8:45 am

Hi Ben,

Would the Graphics Card I mentioned be a worthwhile upgrade?

Thanks,

Neil
<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:4210acd8.1471080@nntp.charter.net...
>A Dell Dimension 4000-series or 8000-series. IBM NetVista or ThinkCentre,
>the
> latter being newer. NOT an HP Pavilion. Certain models of Compaq Evo,
> also
> made by struggling HP preserving the HP brand name. NOT eMachines or
> Gateway.
> NOT Sony, due to poor customer service and support. A custom built-white
> box
> computer with high quality generic motherboard, Intel- or Asus-branded.
>
> ... Ben Myers
>
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:38:15 GMT, "Neil Barras" <dontspamme@spammenot.com>
> wrote:
>
>

Ben Myers

2005-02-14, 11:45 pm

I am not familiar enough with video games, the resources they consume or the
internal workings of graphics drivers (PCI or AGP) to make a clear
recommendation... Ben Myers

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:23:57 GMT, "Neil Barras" <dontspamme@spammenot.com>
wrote:

>Hi Ben,
>
>Would the Graphics Card I mentioned be a worthwhile upgrade?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Neil
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:4210acd8.1471080@nntp.charter.net...
>
>

William P.N. Smith

2005-02-14, 11:45 pm

"Neil Barras" <dontspamme@spammenot.com> wrote:
>I was just wondering as I debating on selling it due to its lack of an AGP
>slot.

No AGP slot? That's worth a lot less then. Dunno if it's worth your
upgrading the video card or just getting a whole new machine with
PCI-X video instead...

joe_tide

2005-02-14, 11:45 pm

The nVidea 5200 cards are not for games. They might run, but you would
probably be disappointed in the results.

Bite the bullet and get a new system.

"Neil Barras" <dontspamme@spammenot.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Ben,
>
> Would the Graphics Card I mentioned be a worthwhile upgrade?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
> <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> news:4210acd8.1471080@nntp.charter.net...
>
>

Neil Barras

2005-02-15, 8:45 am

<William P.N. Smith> wrote in message
news:u9k111lan05ja2j3htm9s3ul0sl0ns64e8@4ax.com...
> "Neil Barras" <dontspamme@spammenot.com> wrote:
>
> No AGP slot? That's worth a lot less then. Dunno if it's worth your
> upgrading the video card or just getting a whole new machine with
> PCI-X video instead...
>

I've decided to upgrade the MoBo, but being a Dell, I don't know aht I
should get...Am I right in thinking of a Micro-ATX board?

Cheers,

Neil

Ben Myers

2005-02-15, 4:45 pm

The Dimension 2350, being a Dell, is suitable for upgrading only with another
Dell motherboard complete with metal mounting plate, onto which the back I/O
plate is integrated. Attempting to install any other motherboard is a veritable
minefield of technical and physical obstacles.

A Dimension 4000-series (after the 4100) might offer the best prospects of a
decent upgrade, but before committing to doing so, I would double-check that all
the connectors match between the 2350 board and whatever board you choose. If
my memory serves me well, the connectors involved are:

3-pin proprietary connector from rear ventilating fan to motherboard
Proprietary USB front panel connector
Proprietary cable connecting motherboard to small front panel circuit board with
LEDs and power switch

I think that's about it, but some research on the Dell web site looking at the
very good drawings for various motherboards will confirm.

You probably would not want to consider a Dimension 8000-series motherboard,
which uses RAMBUS memory... Ben Myers

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:11:48 GMT, "Neil Barras" <dontspamme@spammenot.com>
wrote:

>
><William P.N. Smith> wrote in message
>news:u9k111lan05ja2j3htm9s3ul0sl0ns64e8@4ax.com...
>
>I've decided to upgrade the MoBo, but being a Dell, I don't know aht I
>should get...Am I right in thinking of a Micro-ATX board?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Neil
>
>

S.Lewis

2005-02-15, 4:45 pm

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:4212127d.7515886@nntp.charter.net...
> The Dimension 2350, being a Dell, is suitable for upgrading only with
> another
> Dell motherboard complete with metal mounting plate, onto which the back
> I/O
> plate is integrated. Attempting to install any other motherboard is a
> veritable
> minefield of technical and physical obstacles.

This is not entirely correct. The Dimension 23XX/24XX/3000/46XX/and 4700
system boards mount directly onto the system case/chassis. There are *no*
trays on these boards, and the back I/O panel (EMI shield) mounts *to the
case* and can be removed or changed. These panels will obviously differ
among the model numbers listed due to ports and connectors.

I agree that attempting to move to a retail 3rd party board would be a
nightmare in that case.

>
> A Dimension 4000-series (after the 4100) might offer the best prospects of
> a
> decent upgrade, but before committing to doing so, I would double-check
> that all
> the connectors match between the 2350 board and whatever board you choose.
> If
> my memory serves me well, the connectors involved are:
>
> 3-pin proprietary connector from rear ventilating fan to motherboard
> Proprietary USB front panel connector
> Proprietary cable connecting motherboard to small front panel circuit
> board with
> LEDs and power switch
>
> I think that's about it, but some research on the Dell web site looking at
> the
> very good drawings for various motherboards will confirm.

If you're suggesting that he consider moving to a 43XX-45XX system board, he
won't find any joy there, as even the proprietary connectors differ from
those of the 23XX series (the former boards being trayed and with completely
different front panel and audio connections even when un-trayed).

His best chance of success to gain an AGP slot would be a nearly matching
Dim4600 (Intel 865) system board with the matching I/O - EMI shield. Those
connections you mention should match those of the 23XX Dimension. (4600
w/integrated video + AGP slot has more audio outs as well as more USB
ports).

If he goes to a Dim4700 board (if one could be found), then he's looking
also at a Socket T CPU and dual DDR Dimms, and that's not going to be cheap.

Dim2350 specs:

http://support.dell.com/support/edo...ecs.htm#1107078

Dim4600 specs:

http://support.dell.com/support/edo...ecs.htm#1107078

Stew

Ben Myers

2005-02-15, 4:45 pm

Well, we're in agreement that any sort of motherboard swap is fraught with
issues. The devil is in the details, as always.

FWIW, I have a Dimension 4400 chassis here, salvaged from somebody who
unwittingly stripped out a lot of the innards. The Dimension 4400 DOES use a
motherboard mounted on a Dell mounting plate. The Dimension 4400 chassis now
has a Dimension 8200 motherboard in it, complete with RAMBUS memory, which I was
able to get at essentially salvage prices.

In any event, for those boards and chassis which do not use a mounting plate, it
is just as important to match up the motherboard with an appropriate I/O shield,
so all the connectors in back are accessible... Ben Myers

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:17:32 -0600, "S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:4212127d.7515886@nntp.charter.net...
>
>
>This is not entirely correct. The Dimension 23XX/24XX/3000/46XX/and 4700
>system boards mount directly onto the system case/chassis. There are *no*
>trays on these boards, and the back I/O panel (EMI shield) mounts *to the
>case* and can be removed or changed. These panels will obviously differ
>among the model numbers listed due to ports and connectors.
>
>I agree that attempting to move to a retail 3rd party board would be a
>nightmare in that case.
>
>
>
>
>If you're suggesting that he consider moving to a 43XX-45XX system board, he
>won't find any joy there, as even the proprietary connectors differ from
>those of the 23XX series (the former boards being trayed and with completely
>different front panel and audio connections even when un-trayed).
>
>His best chance of success to gain an AGP slot would be a nearly matching
>Dim4600 (Intel 865) system board with the matching I/O - EMI shield. Those
>connections you mention should match those of the 23XX Dimension. (4600
>w/integrated video + AGP slot has more audio outs as well as more USB
>ports).
>
>If he goes to a Dim4700 board (if one could be found), then he's looking
>also at a Socket T CPU and dual DDR Dimms, and that's not going to be cheap.
>
>
>
>Dim2350 specs:
>
>http://support.dell.com/support/edo...ecs.htm#1107078
>
>Dim4600 specs:
>
>http://support.dell.com/support/edo...ecs.htm#1107078
>
>
>
>Stew
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

S.Lewis

2005-02-15, 4:45 pm

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:42122f6c.14924100@nntp.charter.net...
> Well, we're in agreement that any sort of motherboard swap is fraught with
> issues. The devil is in the details, as always.
>
> FWIW, I have a Dimension 4400 chassis here, salvaged from somebody who
> unwittingly stripped out a lot of the innards. The Dimension 4400 DOES
> use a
> motherboard mounted on a Dell mounting plate. The Dimension 4400 chassis
> now
> has a Dimension 8200 motherboard in it, complete with RAMBUS memory, which
> I was
> able to get at essentially salvage prices.
>
> In any event, for those boards and chassis which do not use a mounting
> plate, it
> is just as important to match up the motherboard with an appropriate I/O
> shield,
> so all the connectors in back are accessible... Ben Myers
>

No confusion on the 4400 mb being trayed. All of them (in the hinged case)
from the 43XX up to the current 8400 use trays which have the shield
connected to the tray.

In the Mitac/Foxconn non-hinged case (starting with the 23XX up to the
current 3000 and 4700) the board mounts directly to the case and have
removable shields.

Yep - matching the I/O shield ought to be fun, as most of those Mitac boards
I've seen on ebay have none included.

Stew

Neil Barras

2005-02-15, 4:45 pm

So my best bet is a 4xxx series board?

Neil

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:42122f6c.14924100@nntp.charter.net...
> Well, we're in agreement that any sort of motherboard swap is fraught with
> issues. The devil is in the details, as always.
>
> FWIW, I have a Dimension 4400 chassis here, salvaged from somebody who
> unwittingly stripped out a lot of the innards. The Dimension 4400 DOES
> use a
> motherboard mounted on a Dell mounting plate. The Dimension 4400 chassis
> now
> has a Dimension 8200 motherboard in it, complete with RAMBUS memory, which
> I was
> able to get at essentially salvage prices.
>
> In any event, for those boards and chassis which do not use a mounting
> plate, it
> is just as important to match up the motherboard with an appropriate I/O
> shield,
> so all the connectors in back are accessible... Ben Myers
>
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:17:32 -0600, "S.Lewis"
> <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>

Ben Myers

2005-02-15, 4:45 pm

From Stew's response, it sounds like the Dimension 4600 or 4700 with I/O shield.
But check and double-check to make sure all the connectors match... Ben Myers

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:03:56 GMT, "Neil Barras" <dontspamme@spammenot.com>
wrote:

>So my best bet is a 4xxx series board?
>
>Neil
>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:42122f6c.14924100@nntp.charter.net...
>
>

dociscool

2005-02-15, 11:45 pm

Ben,

I've got a stock 4400 (P4 1.6 ghz) that I'd really like to upgrade via
motherboard or processor for cheap to get a little more power out of it. I'd
like to keep my current 1 gb PC2100 SDRAM if possible. Any ideas or
suggestions? Thanks.

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:42122f6c.14924100@nntp.charter.net...

> FWIW, I have a Dimension 4400 chassis here, salvaged from somebody who
> unwittingly stripped out a lot of the innards. The Dimension 4400 DOES
> use a
> motherboard mounted on a Dell mounting plate. The Dimension 4400 chassis
> now
> has a Dimension 8200 motherboard in it, complete with RAMBUS memory, which
> I was
> able to get at essentially salvage prices.

Ben Myers

2005-02-15, 11:45 pm

To keep your 1GB of PC2100 memory, you would need to upgrade the processor with
a Pentium 4 or Celeron CPU which requires a 400MHz front-side bus. For the much
maligned Celery chip, I'm pretty sure that the fastest one is 2.8GHz. I can't
recall which is the fastest P4 with 400MHz FSB. 2.4GHz for sure. Faster?
Maybe.

A motherboard replacement without faster CPU with 533MHz or 800MHz FSB and
matching memory just ain't worth it... Ben Myers

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:21:53 -0600, "dociscool" <dociscool@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Ben,
>
>I've got a stock 4400 (P4 1.6 ghz) that I'd really like to upgrade via
>motherboard or processor for cheap to get a little more power out of it. I'd
>like to keep my current 1 gb PC2100 SDRAM if possible. Any ideas or
>suggestions? Thanks.
>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:42122f6c.14924100@nntp.charter.net...
>
>
>

dociscool

2005-02-15, 11:45 pm

Ben,

Thanks for the info. If I'd go with a new motherboard for my 4400 with
matching memory and processor, what would you suggest that would be a fairly
easy install and everything would match up in the case? You mention using a
Dimension 8200 motherboard. How much money do you think it would all cost?
Thanks again.

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:4212926f.40275374@nntp.charter.net...

> To keep your 1GB of PC2100 memory, you would need to upgrade the processor
> with
> a Pentium 4 or Celeron CPU which requires a 400MHz front-side bus.

S.Lewis

2005-02-15, 11:45 pm

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:42123bb8.18072482@nntp.charter.net...
> From Stew's response, it sounds like the Dimension 4600 or 4700 with I/O
> shield.
> But check and double-check to make sure all the connectors match... Ben
> Myers
>

Yep. 4600 probably. I also forgot the 4700 is BTX powered...

Stew

Ben Myers

2005-02-15, 11:45 pm

Stew may chime in on this one, but a 4500 or 4600 board may well be the best
drop-in replacement with one-for-one matchups of all connectors. Cost is a good
question.

I can't recommend any of the Dimension 8000-series motherboards with RAMBUS
memory, such as the 8200 or 8250. You'll pay a small fortune for 1GB of RAMBUS,
somewhere around $400. Not worth it. Not at all... Ben Myers

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:06:40 -0600, "dociscool" <dociscool@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Ben,
>
>Thanks for the info. If I'd go with a new motherboard for my 4400 with
>matching memory and processor, what would you suggest that would be a fairly
>easy install and everything would match up in the case? You mention using a
>Dimension 8200 motherboard. How much money do you think it would all cost?
>Thanks again.
>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:4212926f.40275374@nntp.charter.net...
>
>
>

S.Lewis

2005-02-16, 11:45 pm

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:4212b3ff.48869036@nntp.charter.net...
> Stew may chime in on this one, but a 4500 or 4600 board may well be the
> best
> drop-in replacement with one-for-one matchups of all connectors. Cost is
> a good
> question.
>
> I can't recommend any of the Dimension 8000-series motherboards with
> RAMBUS
> memory, such as the 8200 or 8250. You'll pay a small fortune for 1GB of
> RAMBUS,
> somewhere around $400. Not worth it. Not at all... Ben Myers
>

What Ben said.

A 4500 or 4550 system board will work (they both support 400/533mhz FSB
CPU's, and PC2100/PC2700 DDR).

An 8300 system board would work in theory, but then you'd want an 800mhz FSB
CPU, PC3200 DDR (dual channel), and you'd really want to bump up the power
supply (from 250w to 305w).

None of this is really cheap.

Stew

Neil Barras

2005-02-21, 4:45 pm

Hey all,

I've made and acted on my decision. I have ordered a new case, MoBo and Gfx
Card from Novatech:

ASUS P4S800

Nvidia GeForce FX5500 256MB AGP8x

Novatech Panacea (typo?) Case with 350watt PSU

I ordered it today and was told it will be with me tomorrow. I'll keep you
all posted on the outcome.

Thanks for all the help,

Neil
"S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:dbQQd.199$Pt1.73@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>
> <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> news:4212b3ff.48869036@nntp.charter.net...
>
>
> What Ben said.
>
> A 4500 or 4550 system board will work (they both support 400/533mhz FSB
> CPU's, and PC2100/PC2700 DDR).
>
> An 8300 system board would work in theory, but then you'd want an 800mhz
> FSB CPU, PC3200 DDR (dual channel), and you'd really want to bump up the
> power supply (from 250w to 305w).
>
> None of this is really cheap.
>
>
> Stew
>

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